Syrian Debate

[Analyst]

Shame on you the FSA are terrorist mercenaries from Turkey run by CIA agents and all the Syrians support Assad. If this was not the case Assad would be long gone.

You want a good morally upright challenge take the 'Save Quadaffi' one available on older version of this mod ;').

[cdiplayer]

Jan 20, 2013 1:12:10 GMT -6 @Analyst said:

Shame on you the FSA are terrorist mercenaries from Turkey run by CIA agents and all the Syrians support Assad. If this was not the case Assad would be long gone.

You want a good morally upright challenge take the 'Save Quadaffi' one available on older version of this mod ;').

"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it" In my opinion Assad is a dictator and the FSA are Syrian citizens fighting for freedom. If all Syrians support Assad then why have there been so many protests? I also think that Qaddafi was a tyrant and I am glad the Libyan people freed themselves from his rule. As Thomas Jefferson once said "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure," Anyway, I think that Assad's government is doomed because he has lost the consent of the governed, and the consent of the governed cannot be regained with guns and tanks. Again, clearly your opinion is very different from mine but I respect it nonetheless. ;D

[mrplaya]

am syrian and am christian and they killed my uncle just because on the id is written christian

how come an ubrising that calls for Islamic rule and supported by alqada be somting we should all support
screw assad am with u on that put whats the point of taking out assad if the ones that are coming after him are far worse

same shit that happens in libya
those islam fanatics now invad mali and who knows what next they will do

what kind of liberty we can expect from them
this is not an ubrising this is all made just for the destruction of syria


just pls make this mod as realistic as it can they hold no real power in syria and they dont control homs nor aleppo only the out skirts of the city
we used to live with muslims in syria in harmony and peace
put now they are killing people just because of the sect they belong

[cdiplayer]

Jan 23, 2013 2:45:27 GMT -6 mrplaya said:

am syrian and am christian and they killed my uncle just because on the id is written christian

how come an ubrising that calls for Islamic rule and supported by alqada be somting we should all support
screw assad am with u on that put whats the point of taking out assad if the ones that are coming after him are far worse

same shit that happens in libya
those islam fanatics now invad mali and who knows what next they will do

what kind of liberty we can expect from them
this is not an ubrising this is all made just for the destruction of syria


just pls make this mod as realistic as it can they hold no real power in syria and they dont control homs nor aleppo only the out skirts of the city
we used to live with muslims in syria in harmony and peace
put now they are killing people just because of the sect they belong

I don't think it will be worse. The current Libyan government is much better than Qaddafi's government but they are weak, the streets are dangerous. Once the new Libyan government gets stronger everything will be okay. In Syria, once Assad falls the United States will make sure that the more secular opposition is given enough power to keep the extremists away. It will take a long time, but Syria will eventually be free.

[mrplaya]

yes we all saw how the US enforced order in Iraq

how many died can u tell me ??

no thanks

at least Syria now is not a puppet to the US like many arab countries

we were free until this uprising started

now we got all sort of ignorant arabs and muslims fighting in syria in the name of freedom

tanks freedom for all the blood that my country if facing now

u dont know how live was in syria

people of all sects used to bond together we are poor put at least we were happy and safe
the syrian army have all the right to defend syria from those
and just so u know there is no more fsa

now all what we see is black flags and long beards
girls don t ever dare walk the streets because of those people the uprising brought to us

so thanks freedom !!!

[cdiplayer]

Jan 23, 2013 4:36:36 GMT -6 mrplaya said:

yes we all saw how the US enforced order in Iraq

how many died can u tell me ??

no thanks

at least Syria now is not a puppet to the US like many arab countries

we were free until this uprising started

now we got all sort of ignorant arabs and muslims fighting in syria in the name of freedom

tanks freedom for all the blood that my country if facing now

u dont know how live was in syria

people of all sects used to bond together we are poor put at least we were happy and safe
the syrian army have all the right to defend syria from those
and just so u know there is no more fsa

now all what we see is black flags and long beards
girls don t ever dare walk the streets because of those people the uprising brought to us

so thanks freedom !!!

"People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both." -Benjamin Franklin
The difference between Syria then and Syria in the future is that under Assad and the Ba'ath party no one is free, everyone is oppressed equally except the Alawites, the Alawites are above everyone else. After Assad falls everyone will eventually be free and equal, there will be no more oppression. It will take a long time, maybe decades, but it will happen. The U.S. will not directly intervene like we did in Iraq, instead we will support a free Syria from the outside. Listen, we screwed up in Iraq, we defeated an evil dictator but then we let crime and corruption destroy Iraq's newly won freedom. We will not make the same mistake again. Ever since the Assad family took over the Syrian people have been oppressed and they have lived under a dictator. The last time Syrians were free was under Nasser during the United Arab Republic.

[number47]

Jan 23, 2013 4:21:17 GMT -6 cdiplayer said:

In Syria, once Assad falls the United States will make sure that the more secular opposition is given enough power to keep the extremists away. It will take a long time, but Syria will eventually be free.

Like it happened in Egipy too, right? I see it too, a huge secular movement rising in the middle east ;D
I won't pretend I know what's happening in Syria but it is clear that the only opposition to Assad in Syria are muslim rebels. I'm not aware of any secular movement opposing or fighting Assad...and huge amount of those "freedom fighters" are muslim mercenaries that just can't wait to create new secular government after they dispose of Assad
But let's not get too worked up about the game

[mrplaya]

Jan 23, 2013 5:09:42 GMT -6 cdiplayer said:

Jan 23, 2013 4:36:36 GMT -6 mrplaya said:

yes we all saw how the US enforced order in Iraq

how many died can u tell me ??

no thanks

at least Syria now is not a puppet to the US like many arab countries

we were free until this uprising started

now we got all sort of ignorant arabs and muslims fighting in syria in the name of freedom

tanks freedom for all the blood that my country if facing now

u dont know how live was in syria

people of all sects used to bond together we are poor put at least we were happy and safe
the syrian army have all the right to defend syria from those
and just so u know there is no more fsa

now all what we see is black flags and long beards
girls don t ever dare walk the streets because of those people the uprising brought to us

so thanks freedom !!!

"People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both." -Benjamin Franklin
The difference between Syria then and Syria in the future is that under Assad and the Ba'ath party no one is free, everyone is oppressed equally except the Alawites, the Alawites are above everyone else. After Assad falls everyone will eventually be free and equal, there will be no more oppression. It will take a long time, maybe decades, but it will happen. The U.S. will not directly intervene like we did in Iraq, instead we will support a free Syria from the outside. Listen, we screwed up in Iraq, we defeated an evil dictator but then we let crime and corruption destroy Iraq's newly won freedom. We will not make the same mistake again. Ever since the Assad family took over the Syrian people have been oppressed and they have lived under a dictator. The last time Syrians were free was under Nasser during the United Arab Republic.

will this freedom have killed more than 89 thousand people
plus 2 million are refuges
and its still counting
like u think u are free in US
THERE IS NO SUCH WORD AS FREEFOM
LOTS OF PEOPLE DIED FOR A FALSE DREAM
THIS WORLD IS FUCKed UP
so dont talk about freedom like u know it pls

syria was a proud country now all what we see is shame and death
u dont know what is happening in syria
its no longer an ubrising
its an invasion of al qaeda media lies a lot

we just want the blood to stop
and dont say we were controled by a alwaties

all those who are fighting in the army are sunni and christians
and they are all dying for the country not for assad
we will not give it up for those ignorant who wants to restore the khalefat and the islamic rule


and i agree with number47

lets talk about it no more

[cdiplayer]

Jan 23, 2013 21:57:21 GMT -6 mrplaya said:

Jan 23, 2013 5:09:42 GMT -6 cdiplayer said:

"People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both." -Benjamin Franklin
The difference between Syria then and Syria in the future is that under Assad and the Ba'ath party no one is free, everyone is oppressed equally except the Alawites, the Alawites are above everyone else. After Assad falls everyone will eventually be free and equal, there will be no more oppression. It will take a long time, maybe decades, but it will happen. The U.S. will not directly intervene like we did in Iraq, instead we will support a free Syria from the outside. Listen, we screwed up in Iraq, we defeated an evil dictator but then we let crime and corruption destroy Iraq's newly won freedom. We will not make the same mistake again. Ever since the Assad family took over the Syrian people have been oppressed and they have lived under a dictator. The last time Syrians were free was under Nasser during the United Arab Republic.

will this freedom have killed more than 89 thousand people
plus 2 million are refuges
and its still counting
like u think u are free in US
THERE IS NO SUCH WORD AS FREEFOM
LOTS OF PEOPLE DIED FOR A FALSE DREAM
THIS WORLD IS FUCKed UP
so dont talk about freedom like u know it pls

syria was a proud country now all what we see is shame and death
u dont know what is happening in syria
its no longer an ubrising
its an invasion of al qaeda media lies a lot

we just want the blood to stop
and dont say we were controled by a alwaties

all those who are fighting in the army are sunni and christians
and they are all dying for the country not for assad
we will not give it up for those ignorant who wants to restore the khalefat and the islamic rule


and i agree with number47

lets talk about it no more

I'm not in the U.S. I'm in Japan. I know what freedom is like. The world is more free now than it has ever been since the end of the Roman Empire. Typing in all caps will not prove your point any more effectively. I am trying to debate this issue with you in a civil and calm way. I respect your viewpoint but you have yet to provide me with a concrete example of your own opinions. What is freedom in your eyes? To you, is freedom democracy or is it something else? number47 is right, there is no need to get angry about this. I am simply trying to have a real debate with you, I'm not angry, only you are angry.

[number47]

Don't take his anger personally as we all know you are not the reason he is agitated. Having witness bloody war in my own country two decades ago, I can understand his agitation by this topic. It is hard to stay calm while discussing a conflict that has such a huge impact on you, your family and your friends with someone from other side of the world. We all get served information from the media and that information varies depending is the medio pro-current government or pro-rebels. There are truth and lies everywhere, with no exception because it is only natural that all sides want to portrait their cause as the righteous one...

I still believe this kind of topics are "too hard" (or "too heavy", not sure which is the right term in english) for forums like this. Games should provide some kind of refuge from our real life stress and problems not increase it. We should just enjoy the game and wonderfull mod Fistalis created. ;D

[mrplaya]

www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nj5PidfgMP0#at=25


this is my answer to u

u think those will bring us freedom

or they will ruin our county same as they did in Afghanistan

this is the uprising USA supports sadly

and those are the ones who are responsible for killing more than 60000 from the army and the civilians

and u tell me why am i mad

[cdiplayer]

Feb 1, 2013 14:22:40 GMT -6 mrplaya said:

www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nj5PidfgMP0#at=25


this is my answer to u

u think those will bring us freedom

or they will ruin our county same as they did in Afghanistan

this is the uprising USA supports sadly

and those are the ones who are responsible for killing more than 60000 from the army and the civilians

and u tell me why am i mad

The US does not support them. In fact we have designated some of the groups fighting in Syria as terrorist groups that are supported by Al Qaeda. We only support the secular FSA.

[stallion]

The FSA is a terrorist group run by CIA....LONG LIVE ASSAD!

[cdiplayer]

Feb 5, 2013 13:18:16 GMT -6 stallion said:

The FSA is a terrorist group run by CIA....LONG LIVE ASSAD!

Source? Evidence? Elaborate? Spouting propaganda does not make for a very convincing argument.

[stallion]

You have internet just find it's not hard i dovidjenja prijatno