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Post by kristijonas on Feb 5, 2013 11:45:58 GMT -6
Both China and Russia are members of the SCO . Thank you for the reply. I still doubt it's mutual defense's worth. As I see it, it gives a CB for each country to defend each other.
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Post by number47 on Feb 5, 2013 14:44:09 GMT -6
Fistalis, maybe you should consider reviewing Chineese oil production capacity. As it is now, they are out of fuel by mid 2015 and they just keep loosing wars (their land) to that fact (they have a lot of money to buy oil but oil availability on world market is always poor).
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Post by mrplaya on Feb 5, 2013 17:59:08 GMT -6
true
i have to sell them my oil just so they can survive
many countries start to lose in 2015 because of the industry like japan china and us and india
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Post by Fistalis on Feb 5, 2013 20:20:37 GMT -6
Both China and Russia are members of the SCO . Thank you for the reply. I still doubt it's mutual defense's worth. As I see it, it gives a CB for each country to defend each other. Which is All mutual defense does without transit treaties. I could make a copy of mutual defense and call it security cooperation pact but it would functionally do the exact same thing. Fistalis, maybe you should consider reviewing Chineese oil production capacity. As it is now, they are out of fuel by mid 2015 and they just keep loosing wars (their land) to that fact (they have a lot of money to buy oil but oil availability on world market is always poor). Noted, I haven't had alot of free time so if you have a save from around that time I can look at it would help. It would be nice to see if the AI has increased its oil production any. As to demand being too high.. thats due to BG making higher GDP cause higher population demand. I'm curious if its the AI playing badly or if it really doesn't have the potential. (china has a huge population if it sets its mark ups low then its going to drown in demand)
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Post by kristijonas on Feb 5, 2013 23:17:39 GMT -6
In my game China was conquered by Taiwan in 2020+ after a status quo for at least 5 years.
About Russian-Chinese mutual defense, problem was, I played as South Korea and attacked Russia. That's when I noticed the mutual defence they had. China immediately started attacking my troops and taking my lands. So I can imagine it would be the same wether I attack Russia or China. I don't think it's realistic for them to act as a sole military against any aggressors.
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Post by number47 on Feb 6, 2013 1:40:50 GMT -6
Noted, I haven't had alot of free time so if you have a save from around that time I can look at it would help. It would be nice to see if the AI has increased its oil production any. As to demand being too high.. thats due to BG making higher GDP cause higher population demand. I'm curious if its the AI playing badly or if it really doesn't have the potential. (china has a huge population if it sets its mark ups low then its going to drown in demand) Sure, I'll link you the game sometime today.
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Post by Fistalis on Feb 6, 2013 5:34:00 GMT -6
In my game China was conquered by Taiwan in 2020+ after a status quo for at least 5 years. About Russian-Chinese mutual defense, problem was, I played as South Korea and attacked Russia. That's when I noticed the mutual defence they had. China immediately started attacking my troops and taking my lands. So I can imagine it would be the same wether I attack Russia or China. I don't think it's realistic for them to act as a sole military against any aggressors. Thats due to the full transit treaties, I cleaned up some files and these must have slipped past me. That will be removed.. but its not the mutual defense itself.. its the mutual defense + Transit that allows proxy wars. Noted for fix.
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Post by cdiplayer on Feb 6, 2013 5:38:39 GMT -6
In my game China was conquered by Taiwan in 2020+ after a status quo for at least 5 years. About Russian-Chinese mutual defense, problem was, I played as South Korea and attacked Russia. That's when I noticed the mutual defence they had. China immediately started attacking my troops and taking my lands. So I can imagine it would be the same wether I attack Russia or China. I don't think it's realistic for them to act as a sole military against any aggressors. Thats due to the full transit treaties, I cleaned up some files and these must have slipped past me. That will be removed.. but its not the mutual defense itself.. its the mutual defense + Transit that allows proxy wars. Noted for fix. I just played a game as Japan and when I attacked China Russia did not come to their aid.
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Post by kristijonas on Feb 6, 2013 9:42:54 GMT -6
Thank you for the fix, it sounds great!
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Post by number47 on Feb 6, 2013 11:42:16 GMT -6
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Post by stallion on Feb 11, 2013 7:12:38 GMT -6
Does anyone knows when 0.83 will be released?
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Post by Fistalis on Feb 11, 2013 9:16:45 GMT -6
Does anyone knows when 0.83 will be released? No. I've been working extra days the last few weeks so I haven't had time to put much work into any of the mods. My schedule should go back to normal for atleast the next few weeks so probably in that time frame.
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Post by daxterhxc on Feb 17, 2013 12:45:24 GMT -6
Hello.... is the 0.83 released??
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Post by su1c1d3 on Feb 19, 2013 12:16:51 GMT -6
0.83 is not out yet. I checked the download (Auto Extractor) and its still version 0.82e.
Btw @ Fistalis on the forum home page the News box says that 0.83e is out. Typo. Anywho...Great mods, playing Modern world right now and i had the 2020 pack before i changed my computer OS.
Best of luck on current / future modding projects.
Edit: Also i don't know if your aware but the download page for the Modern World mod states it only version 0.81b still.
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Post by Fistalis on Feb 19, 2013 12:56:08 GMT -6
0.83 is not out yet. I checked the download (Auto Extractor) and its still version 0.82e. Btw @ Fistalis on the forum home page the News box says that 0.83e is out. Typo. Anywho...Great mods, playing Modern world right now and i had the 2020 pack before i changed my computer OS. Best of luck on current / future modding projects. Edit: Also i don't know if your aware but the download page for the Modern World mod states it only version 0.81b still. News fader on forums has been fixed.. website = laziness. I should probably just remove the version numbers from the website since I'm so lazy. (other than the news scroller thing... ) It also uses old screenshots.. I should probably update most of it.. and maybe finish the broken parts.. lol and no 0.83 isn't out.. it will probably be released in the middle of next week.
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